http://felineranger.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] felineranger.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] reddwarfslash2007-04-14 05:16 pm

*Shudder*

Yeuch...Just been reading the NOTW interview with Craig Charles and his wife.  Torn between pity and wanting to give him a great big hug and going 'Ewwwww...I don't wanna know that'.  Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that he's pulled himself together and if his story helps stop other people making the same mistakes then that's wonderful.  But I really get creeped out by people discussing things that should be kept private in the tabloids.  The state of your marriage is something that should be between you and your partner- don't share it with the whole world!  I guess this slightly grubby feeling I have now serves me right for being a nosy celeb-stalker in the first place.  Plus I'm kinda pissed off cos dammit his wife is actually quite hot.  Some disgusting shameful part of me was hoping she'd be a minger to give the rest of us fangurls a chance!

[identity profile] tawg.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Bitch you may be, but I agree with you :) I think, tactically, it's also a very good move publicity-wise. Now all his fans, and a lot of his detractors, know that he's making an effort to stay clean, and there's more understanding about what happened in the first place. I mean, having such interviews covering all the gory details about a controversy encourages discussion about it (as we're proving), and discussion generally helps people sort out an agreed upon set of truths.

I mean, before the article I felt sorry for him and his situation, but I didn't believe he'd ever completely give up the habit because of his long history with it. Now, however, after not just hearing him talk about it, but seeing his physical reactions to some of the things he was revealing, I'm far more inclined to think he'll stay clean.

[identity profile] dahlia-777.livejournal.com 2007-04-18 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, tactically, it's also a very good move publicity-wise. Yes, and don't forget financially. Oh dear, there I go again, being a totally cynical bitch... I'm afraid from what I know about Craig Charles I don't think much of him beyond the vague sympathy I have for any recovering addict and the vague contempt I have for anyone who sells their story to a paper like NOTW . I don't feel I have to like him just because I love Dave Lister, you know?

[identity profile] tawg.livejournal.com 2007-04-19 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's possibly a healthy way of looking at it. Going to bat for someone you only know through a television series and occasional snippits on youtube gets very stressful after a while. And let's face it - regardless of what the actual situation in Craig's homelife is, I hardly think us gawpers can ever achieve any kind of accurate understanding of the situation.

[identity profile] dahlia-777.livejournal.com 2007-04-19 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It can be hard sometimes though to separate an actor from a much loved character - especially when the actor's so brilliant at playing the character as in this case. How can we help feeling an "Aw, Dave..." tug of emotion when we look at Craig Charles, who makes Lister so real to us, even when he's clearly (well, clearly imho anyway:D) a bit of a jerk?

But I'm a fan of The Professionals too, and believe me that's much harder because Martin Shaw has frequently slagged off the series and his character, whom I absolutely adore. At least Craig Charles has never done that!

[identity profile] tawg.livejournal.com 2007-04-20 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Unlike Norman, the craggy old pest...

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2007-04-20 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing about Red Dwarf though, is that it sometimes can be very hard to separate actor from character. The more I learn about the actors, the scarier the parallels get. I used to think Craig was a jerk too, but the more I learn about him, the more it seems like the truth is slighty more complicated. (Shock! Horror! :p) I think he's an oddly fascinating man. Anyway, I'm just babbling.

From what I've heard, Craig did slag off RD and Lister. He didn't behave very well to fans sometimes either. Which is why a lot of people went "wow" when they saw him at DJ last year. The word New Man has been thrown around alot. Well, if so, good for him. *shrugs*

As long as I don't turn into that woman who was yelling "innocent" (as in "he didn't take the drugs") whenever someone said something even jokingly negative about him at the con, I'm happy. Dear gods... She even said it to Craig. I had a bet with [livejournal.com profile] lady_draco that she would. Craig joked it off, but he seemed rather stunned.

[identity profile] dahlia-777.livejournal.com 2007-04-22 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I've heard, Craig did slag off RD and Lister. Oh dear, oh dear - this is why I prefer to know as little as possible about his real life. *Covers ears, shuts eyes. He's Lister. He's Lister and only Lister!*

But yeah, I realise it's difficult to separate characters and actors - and especially in RD where everyone knows the writers based the former partly on the latter, at least in later series.

I can't fathom what kind of crazy fangirl you'd have to be to declare a star innocent of something he's admitted doing. I bet that was a cringy moment!