ext_12388 ([identity profile] bayliss.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] reddwarfslash2012-01-08 03:36 pm
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Intriguing, to say the least.

G & T's Set report for #3.


I am intrigued as to the nature of this episode. What could Red Dwarf have done that hasn't already been offensive to someone?

Discuss.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-08 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, I doubt it. At this point, I don't think canon slash would be offensive to many viewers (certainly not to British viewers, I wouldn't think); also, the guy says it's something *no* sitcom has done (which, is a pretty narrow net, IMO - I think he's probably wrong), and remember, "Modern Family" is a top-rated U.S. sitcom and features a gay male couple with children.

(ETA: I'm betting it's something to do with religion or ethnicity. Another guess would be full-frontal, but I think THAT'S probably unlikely. But who knows?)

As for the male guest star - this is Doug, the guest star is important, so I'm going to pull from a previous prediction that it's Michael McGruder. There, I said it. LOL
Edited 2012-01-08 23:42 (UTC)

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Incidentally, is your icon on this post from an actual photo, or is it 'shopped?

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It must be the angle of his head leaning forward and down; I thought it was pasted on another body, for some reason. But it looks NICE. Lovely.

[identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't thinking canon slash being seen as offensive per se; more that this guest character may be gay and the way he's played could be seen as offensive - predatory, camp etc. But really I'm just speculating; it's probably nothing like that.

They've tackled religion before of course, in "Waiting For God" most notably. I actually hope it doesn't concern ethnicity, because I've always loved RD's utter nonchalance about it. But maybe I should have faith in Doug's writing and the cast's acting.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, canon slash WOULD offend some people - I just don't know if it's the same people who'd watch Red Dwarf, here in the States, LOL. But I really do think it's related more to religion somehow - although I stand by my statement that I can't think of ANYTHING a sitcom hasn't yet done that could be done to offend people. That's sort of part of the nature of comedy, isn't it?

[identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Think of something controversial and you can bet your boots it's been tackled somewhere. RD, Ab Fab, Little Britain... I'm sure it's been covered before, whatever it is.

[identity profile] kronette.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I know it's not a sitcom, but South Park has offended damn near everyone with their schtick and it was the writers' intention. With the last series of Torchwood, we had m/m sex on screen, the first since probably our version of Queer as Folk, so I doubt the offensiveness lies that way.

There isn't much RD hasn't dealt with. I mean, we've already had male pregnancy, genderswap (Holly), religion, causality, nudity (strictly for the first "test clone" in Rimmerworld), disgust (Lister eating a tarantula and maggots), hell, even mild forms of incest if Ruler Rimmer was kissing his concubine lover woman-Rimmer. Or...wasn't that Rimmer actually a woman? Was it just another male Rimmer forced to act/look like a woman? I've often wondered about that. If our Rimmer couldn't get a female clone of himself after all his attempts, did the clones do it?

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
nudity (strictly for the first "test clone" in Rimmerworld)

You must not be through S8 yet. ;-)

[identity profile] kronette.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
DAMN, how could I have forgotten that!? I believe my comment was how much was Chris holding that in order to release one hand, he had to tuck and bend over first? And the BTS stuff where Robert, I believe, said they were completely naked (no industry "socks" as it were). Wow.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Probably only because he was told to. I suspect if he were told to give a double-Rimmer salute during that scene, he'd have done it without argument. :-D

[identity profile] vejgeta9.livejournal.com 2012-01-10 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I would DIE if they decided to do a full - frontal, After I wore out my dvd player!!

[identity profile] vejgeta9.livejournal.com 2012-01-10 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I would GAG if Barre or Charles (esp Craig!) did a f.f. !!