http://janamelie.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] reddwarfslash2012-05-19 10:00 pm

Rimmer And Yvonne McGruder

There's a thread on TOS about the morality of Rimmer sleeping with McGruder while she was suffering from concussion.  Personally I've always assumed that if she'd been discharged from the medibay then she was sufficiently "with it" to know what she was doing.  I also accepted the "Last Human" retcon which explains a lot more about what went on that night.  (Spoilers in the thread just in case anyone hasn't read it.)

But reading some of the points brought up in this thread makes me uncomfortable.  Wondering how others interpret it.

http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=B9128677-1999-AFED-B439706F293BF2EA

Sorry to bring up such an unsavoury topic, but it's something that clearly had a big impact on Rimmer and is referenced quite a lot in the series.

[identity profile] amy-wolf.livejournal.com 2012-05-19 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Rape/sexual assault of any degree is about power, and I just don't see Rimmer as having any sort of power in that situation as it was depicted in (all versions of) canon.

I'm a bit confused by this. Being alone in the room with a woman who's deeply confused due to a head injury seems like it'd be enough power that he'd be able to rape her if he chose to.

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2012-05-19 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
See my comment, erm, to my comment, above. I realized just after I posted that first comment that with any other person, the point you're making here would be correct. But this is Rimmer, and, well. My interpretation, of course!

[identity profile] amy-wolf.livejournal.com 2012-05-19 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
So him doing that doesn't fit with your interpretation of the character? That makes sense.

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2012-05-20 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, that's what I was trying to say. And the extent to which I believe that is underlined by the fact that I didn't even think it would require explanation! Then I went, "no, hang on..." Oh, Rimmer...