Fathers and Suns notices ...

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I watched the second episode again and had a couple of thoughts.

First, I don't find it that odd that Rimmer would have a breast fixation. We know from little clues he likes, um, larger features on the ladies (the rude Renaissance paintings from the first novel; his remarks about big thighs in "Memory" to name two). I can reconcile him being gay and still fascinated with women's bodies - he certainly wouldn't be the first gay man I've known to like boobs. Most seem to.

Second, a bit of costumey - anyone glimpse the little horizontal pleating on the sides of Rimmer's tunic at waist level? Nice detail, is all.

Finally, did anyone else notice Rimmer putting that hardlight strength to work with the forklifts at the end? The others were trying to push them off one at a time, but Rimmer was visibly straining in the back - one hand on each, holding them off the entire group until Lister made Pree shut down. You can even see Rimmer lowering his arms afterward. Quite a switch from his Rimmerworld runner (from a purely survivalist POV, Rimmer could've gone to softlight here and his bee wouldn't have been hurt at all, even if the others had been spiked or crushed).

No wonder Rimmer did a little dance with the others after; aww, he helped!

In that vein, I feel like the boys are all more cohesive and affectionate - family-like - this season, than ever before, and concerned about one another. Maybe that's what many people like about X so far, I don't know.

Comments

[kms726.livejournal.com]

I was saying to my brother just the other day how it feels like the Red Dwarf boys have a family-unit feel now. I never really got that vibe before. Four guys trapped together who became friends, maybe--but not family. They're tighter now, more close-knit. Like how they helped Rimmer try to pull off that stunt to impress Howard without a kerfuffle (not that we saw, at least). They saw Rimmer wanted their help and they just did it. I love this new group dynamic and I hope we see more of it :)

Also, Rimmer's dance in the end of F&S--adorkable! :) someone made a lovely gif of it : http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc04vuRmez1qeak7z.gif

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

That's the biggest thing, how they're working together to help each other and sort of look after each other. Cat getting into the drab gray onesie to help Rimmer play captain - now there might well have been a bribe involved we don't see, but it's still a far cry from C&P when Lister was collapsed, sick, and Rimmer couldn't talk him away from his lunch to help pick him up.

And as for Rimmer, compare being squeezed by spiked forklifts to the relative ease of blasting someone in the back in Rimmerworld, which he DIDN'T do. It's a subtle shift for both him and Cat; hell, there was even a time Lister wouldn't have played along for Howard like he did here.

[hazeltea.livejournal.com]

Right on all counts :)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Also, I forgot, I think it was Metalkatt who pointed out to me, it's unlikely Lister got himself into that shopping cart and pillowed his own head alone. And where were the empty shot glasses in quarters? (I didn't see them, at least.) Plus, it's unlikely "Dad" would've gotten away with that recording in quarters late at night with Rimmer there. She said Rimmer probably found him passed out elsewhere, tipped him into the cart, and wheeled him back to quarters.

Sure, maybe Kryten did instead, but you just know if HE had, he would've maneuvered Dave into bed to be more comfortable. Whereas, Rimmer's concerned, but still enough of a bastard to leave him in the cart. :-D

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

I've seen the victory dance described as unnecessary and even embarrassing, but I strongly disagree. It is adorkable. :)

The boys from the Dwarf have never been bothered about what's appropriate - well, Rimmer has, but he's clearly loosened up. ;)