ext_28796 ([identity profile] shivvlan.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] reddwarfslash2006-05-02 01:01 am
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I was watching the Red Dwarf Cast commentry's today, backwards I might add though i'm not sure why--started with season 7 and worked my way backwards. Missed season 4 since i don't currently have it and have gotten to season two. Anyway, I was noticing that the actors, dispite that fact that there are only three constant and three changable, seem to have formed groups. Uhm...whats that american word? Klicks? cliques? whatever. I noticed that Whats-his-name who plays Kryten and the bloke who plays Cat (benifit of the doubt on my memory here people, it's 1am and i've been watching RD cast commentries backwards since about 4pm yesturday) seem to be good friends, whereas Chris Barrie barely even says a word when Craig Charles isn't there. It was mainly the Chris Barrie, Craig Charles thing I was noticing since Craig Charles wasn't in the season 5 commentry--it's my favourite season with most of my favourite episodes and I was looking forward to finding out what the two had to say about them =P only to have Craig Charles not there and Chris Barrie barely said a word for the entire thing. I found the implied relationships interesting.

I also highly recommend watching the cast commentrys on a laptop, or likewise, with headphones. That's how i've been doing it (my sister stole my PS2 so I couldn't watch them on the TV) and I really must say, ^_______^ Gosh there's nothing like having Chris Barrie purring right into your ear =P

[identity profile] nessaancalime.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Bummer, Craig is not commenting on season 5? Was looking forward to that. Well, at least he make waves in the documentary ;-)
Funny you say this. In the documentary on season 4, Craig talks about how he and Chris weren't getting along very well then, implicit that they are getting along much better now. How he kept making remarks winding Chris up. He said something about it being a matter of not really having the respect for each other that they had now. Also something about them feeling a bit trapped in the whole thing - seeing a future spent with Red Dwarf conventions forever ::G::
But in a way, it is usually the people you have something with that can wind you up. In second season one of the writers were commenting on how well the Rimmer/Lister thing worked now because of the chemistry between Chris and Craig. So I guess it would be going up and down a bit when you have to work together so much and have a connection, for better or worse.
Could very well be that Robert and Danny had more of a rapport with each other, and they are both very talkative types. Despite the kind of occupation Chris has, he always struck me as being more reserved and introvert than the others, so with those two going off at 100 miles an hour, he would probably withdraw a bit (one of the things that makes me see a connection between him and Rimmers personality). Maybe that is why Craig is winding him up a bit on purpose to get a reaction out of him :-)

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, he is... Chris does his voice. ;) And since you can't tell the difference (seriously!) it's quite disconcerting. And listening to what he says as Craig, and replies, is quite honestly what say the most to me about their relationship than anything else I've seen or heard, almost. There'a great bit where he even gets into an argument with "Craig," yelling "Shut up, Craig!"

Great stuff, and very... Ahem. *does not do RPS* *does not do RPS* *does not do RPS* *does not do RPS*

*cough*

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I adore Season V's commentary! It's amusing and delightfully slashy to listen to Chris impersonate Craig, and you hear Hattie more than on any other commentary (I love Hattie!).

I think conversational groups form, but I think they're fluid. Chris does tend to go quiet when he's embarassed, so he talks less when they're going on about his bum or his arms or his Hugh Hefner package (good lord, I listened to the I commentary last night - holy slash city, Batman!), but he definitely gets his two cents in. I love how he's the one who gets people going when they dribble off and just watch the episode. I remember it particularly in Marooned, when they all trailed off and he said something along the lines of "Delightful as it may be to listen to these magnificent actors [this was a Rimmer scene] we are here to commentate, and commentate we shall..."

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"Why are we talking about my arms?"

Beyond cute.

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
And don't forget in V, Chris talking about Craig always trying to talk him into another drink at the pub after shoots...

And lordy, that Future Echoes bit, with Craig talking about the package-stare being the leadup to the VII kiss!

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, god, there was that bit in Confidence and Paranoia when you got a camera shot from 3/4 towards the legs of Chris in his bunk in his T-shirt/shorts ensemble, and Danny said something about how the only acting there was going on between Chris's legs...

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It does some fine acting in your icon there too!

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a method actor, methinks.