ext_28796 ([identity profile] shivvlan.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] reddwarfslash2006-05-02 01:01 am
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I was watching the Red Dwarf Cast commentry's today, backwards I might add though i'm not sure why--started with season 7 and worked my way backwards. Missed season 4 since i don't currently have it and have gotten to season two. Anyway, I was noticing that the actors, dispite that fact that there are only three constant and three changable, seem to have formed groups. Uhm...whats that american word? Klicks? cliques? whatever. I noticed that Whats-his-name who plays Kryten and the bloke who plays Cat (benifit of the doubt on my memory here people, it's 1am and i've been watching RD cast commentries backwards since about 4pm yesturday) seem to be good friends, whereas Chris Barrie barely even says a word when Craig Charles isn't there. It was mainly the Chris Barrie, Craig Charles thing I was noticing since Craig Charles wasn't in the season 5 commentry--it's my favourite season with most of my favourite episodes and I was looking forward to finding out what the two had to say about them =P only to have Craig Charles not there and Chris Barrie barely said a word for the entire thing. I found the implied relationships interesting.

I also highly recommend watching the cast commentrys on a laptop, or likewise, with headphones. That's how i've been doing it (my sister stole my PS2 so I couldn't watch them on the TV) and I really must say, ^_______^ Gosh there's nothing like having Chris Barrie purring right into your ear =P

[identity profile] nessaancalime.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was getting associations to similar experiences. Sometimes you just feel a closeness and understanding to people, nothing to do with sexual attraction, you just instinctively understand each other, an almost chemical reactions. But you can still be very different and irritate each other and then the understanding is just a nuisance because you don't want to understand! If you can get past that and into acceptance of the other person, one will be very close even just as friends.
Don't beat it off - transform it into another beautiful Rimmer/Lister fic.

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
A fic? Twist my arm!

I still like to think they canoodled at some point. *whistle*
I agree - I think Understanding Level 1 was an irritant for both of them, and Understanding Level 2 broke through that.

I still like how, even when they didn't get along, they didn't get along in a try-to-get-under-the-others'-skin way - I'm thinking of the horse incident in Gunmen and the light-cig-in-the-swamp bit in Terrorform, and how they imitated each other in Thanks For The Memory and Bodyswap.

[identity profile] nessaancalime.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they are pros, and got that valuable thing: a sense of humour :-)
Chris imitated Craig, who freely admitted imitation was not his strongest thing.
Did you notice they both got divorced around the first seasons of the series ::whistles innocently::

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ja, imitation isn't his thing, but he still seemed to enjoy playing Rimmer with his nose in the air in Bodyswap. ;) And Chris so looked like he was taking the piss as Lister with Lise in Thanks...

Oh, they did. Argh! More RPS bunnies! Down!

God, I didn't think Season I was all that slashy until I watched the cast commentary. And dang it all, I need to get my hands on that smegup that's only on the tapes, where Craig ends up hugging Chris.

[identity profile] kahvi.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
*reads thread*

I wonder if there is a way to set up my laptop to shock me if I try to write RPS? I might need it...

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. Argh.

[identity profile] nessaancalime.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a tape of smegups. Should get it out and check, if its there I can probably digitise it.

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! If you did, I would love you! It's a smegup that's apparently on the tape, from the end of Me Squared...

[identity profile] nessaancalime.livejournal.com 2006-05-01 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Not at home right now, will check when I get back later this week. Remind me if it takes time, in case I forget it again.
Think it is a smeg-up tape from season 1, but haven't watched in a long time. Digitising should be easy if it is actually there.

[identity profile] roadstergal.livejournal.com 2006-05-02 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure all of the commentaries were recorded once they had made it to their marvelous friendly squoogly phase. Huzzah!

[identity profile] nessaancalime.livejournal.com 2006-05-02 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about it :-)
Altough RPS may be lurking under the surface here, it is a relevant discussion to the series. I alwyas felt that the writers were using the actors persoalities as well as the way they related to each other when they developed the personalities and also in coming up with plots. Also the actors will make the characters their own and insert the parts of themselves that is suitable.
And you can have chemistry but still not always get along...

[identity profile] felineranger.livejournal.com 2006-05-02 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
They did? Intriguing...I knew Craig was divorced cos he talks about his ex quite a bit on the dvd's, but didn't know about Chris. Perhaps that's why they didn't get on series 2 so well. Maybe they were both feeling a bit sensitive and not in the mood for any snarkage.