Intriguing Tweet From Doug Naylor (Very Mild Spoiler)

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

In response to a question on Twitter, Doug Naylor confirmed that something which has bothered fans for years will be answered in the new series.

A fan asked "Is Rimmer in the new ones the hologram of the resurrected Rimmer in Series 8 or the one who became Ace?"

Doug replied "Watch RDX and all will be revealed in Show 6".

It probably is "our" Rimmer, but I'm glad we'll finally know. :)

Comments

[bayliss.livejournal.com]

EXCELLENT! Finally! He did come back. :-)

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

It'll be interesting to see how close fanfic writers got to the canon explanation. :)

[bayliss.livejournal.com]

Indeed. How close did we get? :-)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Unless it's a third kind of Rimmer altogether. Could be he was somehow rebooted from the original disc (or the disc of whatever Red Dwarf they were on in BTE) and somehow obtained the memories of his time with them in S1-7. (Normally I'd go with Occam's razor and say it's Arn-Ace-Arn, but when have Doug or Rob ever been about the simplest explanation? LOL)

[bayliss.livejournal.com]

Could be he was somehow rebooted from the original disc (or the disc of whatever Red Dwarf they were on in BTE) and somehow obtained the memories of his time with them in S1-7.
Holo!Rimmer left with the Hard Light Lightbee, though. So that argument would have to explain where they got another Hard Light Lightbee from. They couldn't have ran into Legion again... and Legion said "he" invented Hard Light technology.


BtE!Arnie knows WAY too much, though, and acts less series eight. He's too brave at the end for it to be anybody but "our" Arnie. It has to be Holo!Arnie back from being Ace. It has to be.

[fantasysci5.livejournal.com]

I love that "our" Holo Rimmer has grown so much, that he can be the only one brave enough. I just love the "original" Hologram Rimmer. <3 <3 <3

[bayliss.livejournal.com]

But it's true. He grew and changed so much because of what happened to him but also what Lister gave him in the sense of friendship. :-)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Gee, I guess for the benefit of our outside readers allergic to such things, we'd probably better specify that many of us, if not all, aren't figuring that Rimmer came back from being Ace to live in carnal sin with Lister. ;-)

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

To quote another favourite sitcom of mine: "That was just a delightful bonus"! ;)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Fanfic is lovely that way. Filling in for what the tape doesn't show in canon. 0:-)

I'm going to guess it IS the original Rimmer hologram simply because of remarks he made in BTE (if this is immediately pre- or post-BTE) suggesting things he knew from events in those first several seasons. It's not conclusive evidence, but it's more fun for me to imagine this group has all been together for the better part of 20-some years.

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

Yes, I want it to be the original Rimmer too. He's the one we saw grow and change over 7 seasons.

TOS has had numerous arguments about this, but the consensus seems to be that Series X is definitely post-BTE. It's the only timeframe that makes sense, really.

[fantasysci5.livejournal.com]

Yeah, when talking about the despair squid, they didn't have to stop and fill Rimmer in, so I'm hoping it's our original. *fingers crossed*

[lemmesay.livejournal.com]

ohohooohhhh INTRIGUING!!!

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

Maybe we shouldn't get too excited - I've just read this from the writer of Ep 6's Set Report for G&T: "It took me a moment to work out what [Doug] was referring to. Unless they’ve shot some new stuff, I wonder if he’s over playing the issue somewhat".

Then again, they were indeed shooting new stuff right up until last Saturday.

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

Erm...I must admit that I was a tad baffled by Doug's remarks. But judging from what I saw, I know what I'm betting my money on....

[bayliss.livejournal.com]

Fine be that way. LOL. Don't tell us what you know. :-P

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

Well :-P to you too! hehe

[bayliss.livejournal.com]

Just teasing. :-) I luv you. :-)

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

N'aww! *snuggle*

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

Well, we won't push for details you can't give. Maybe he was referring to something shot at the last minute without an audience, and is holding it back for a screening?

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

This is quite possible. After all, we as an audience didn't see 3 scenes from the middle being shot. They were just outlined for us. *strokes beard*

[vejgeta9.livejournal.com]

Me too!!

[fantasysci5.livejournal.com]

YAAAAY!!!! *does a little dance* I've always had a soft spot for the "original" hologram Rimmer, since it always bothered me that the other Rimmers didn't have any of the memories we know and love, like falling in love in "Holoship" and having regret over Rimmerworld. I think those experiences really shpaed "our" Rimmer, and I love him so much more than the original alive Rimmer or Series 8 Rimmer. I hope it's my Rimmer back!!! <3

[jameta4all.livejournal.com]

I personally saw the BTE Rimmer as the revived Rimmer turned dead, because he was such a git again. If it was original Rimmer returning from being Ace, I'd have thought he'd have changed more i.e. become sane. But that wouldn't be good television.

Oh well. This is why I hate writing fanfiction for series that haven't really finished. Half my stories become AU without my meaning them to.

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

Not necessarily. He could have had his Ace memories wiped, like in MissFlibble's fic.

[goku-lover21.livejournal.com]

8|

BEST. I can't wait. Ugh. Perfection.

[kms726.livejournal.com]

Most intriguing...

My gut feeling says it's our Rimmer, too. I never felt too warmly towards the series VIII Rimmer, since he's technically a reboot of the series I Rimmer. He hadn't been on the same adventures as the rest or have the memories of those years. So yeah. I'm rooting for old Rimmer. In which case I'm very curious in how/why he stopped being Ace. And if he recruited someone else before he hung up the wig and tinfoil jacket.

[fantasysci5.livejournal.com]

I think he probably did pass it on, but what I want to know is whether he gave up because he couldn't do it, or if he became a hero...Good tv would be that he couldn't do it.

[nice-girls-play.livejournal.com]

*starts the countdown*

Seriously hope it's our boy -- though since this is Doug, my brain is betting against my heart on some strange third option (like say nano!Rimmer dying and getting BOTH disks uploaded when his hologram was brought back so he has two sets of Rimmer memories, allowing him to take whichever direction he wants to whenever Doug likes).

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

That's a good theory. Yes, the most likely option, IMO, is something that makes him basically "our" Rimmer, but with complications.

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

FUCK A DUCK. My husband just reminded me of one particular line. ONE LINE that gave away the answer. Hmm...no wonder Cappsy from G&T and I missed it upon initial viewing!!!! He's so smart. That's why I married him ^__^

[dauphkantus.livejournal.com]

Heh, well. Nice to know he does indeed solve the issue for all of us...

(BUT DON'T TELL MEEEE... all this will take ages to get across the pond as it is, and I like the ignorant bliss...)

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

Course I won't darling. No spoilers here.

[vejgeta9.livejournal.com]

*Screams and dies* I want to know!!!

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

Dying of curiosity. *Lol* That's a good hubby you have there. ;)

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

He's got a ridiculously good at remembering scripts from any TV show or film we've seen, albeit once! Smart cookie ^__^

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Can you say if the outcome matches any fanfic plot you've seen? Minus the slash of course.

[missflibble.livejournal.com]

I'd be potentially giving away spoilers if I answered that, sorry. But yes, it is revealed. If you're listening carefully....

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I should've specified, I don't want to know which fic - just if it had been addressed. :-P

When it draws closer, you MUST tell us which scene to pay attention to.