ext_16318 ([identity profile] kronette.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] reddwarfslash2013-11-09 12:26 pm
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You know what annoys me about S8?

Well, aside from "Krytie TV". It's the fact that Hollister had Rimmer enter the psychotropic testing without his knowledge. The other four had to sign consent forms, acknowledge that they understood what was going to happen to them and agreed to be placed in the AR environment. Rimmer was just told to lick an envelope that was posted to himself.

I know Rimmer represented himself at his trial, but it never should have come to that, or his entire case thrown out on the basis of entrapment. Nothing he said or did in the AR environment should have been allowed as evidence, which means that Hollister would have had to prove another way that Rimmer was using confidential files for his personal gain. And if Rimmer had a shred of self-preservation (and we know he has it in spades), he might have been able to keep it to himself or at least slide by without being overt. I don't know; that one part has always bugged me.

[identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com 2013-11-10 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a huge mess. The final scene establishes that the virus affects everyone, regardless of gender or sexual orientation - and they're no longer in AR. What that implies about what happened after the credits is incredibly disturbing.

Oh, hell. *Sticks fingers in ears and tells self that the guards stopped the prisoners and then the virus wore off* :(

I suggest going with "The virus made them do it".

[identity profile] nice-girls-play.livejournal.com 2013-11-10 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You think it (prison) was done to contain them, so they didn't tell the rest of the crew that they were all dead/resurrected? That I could see and could even accept if it had been hinted at with all those Hollister talking to the camera recaps. It would still be a lousy, cruddy thing to do, but as the audience, it would make sense. What happened - makes no sense.

I think that could have easily been one underlying motive, considering how poorly the *ship's psychiatrist* reacted to the idea. But, like you said, if Doug had at least hinted at that in Hollister's intros or his conversation with Holly, it would have lent a lot more credibility to the plot.

The whole virus is problematic for me. In this specific scenario, in the event of Rimmer being rescued in the prison by someone who is then exposed to the virus, if he's aware that it's the virus that is causing all of this to happen, I think any idea of consent is void and it then becomes his responsibility to put a stop to it. If he can. But you're right -- if he can't stop it and says "no," is the person reacting to the virus guilty of assault or is Lister (since he was the one that dosed Rimmer in the first place)?
Edited 2013-11-10 19:15 (UTC)