Shirtless Rimmer et al

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

I did discover this journal fairly recently, may not be up to all you have had here. Firstly I have to say I have greatly enjoyed all the fics recently and my OTP since starting to see this series has been Rimmer/Lister, just so obvious, isn't it? Anyway, I am enjoying my way through the DVDs and watching the documentary on Season 5 was great fun.
The first episodes have this certain outburst of Shirtless!Rimmer. In the documentary this is getting a lot of attention from the other actors, particularly Robert and Craig has some interesting comments. For those of you who haven't seen this, I have the clip here (you need the latest version of RealPlayer and it is almost 5 MB):
Shirtless!Rimmer comments

Now they obviously had a real good eye for what Chris looked like with his shirt off ::g:: It is the female that mentions the attractive model on the set, while the guys are enthusing of the sight of all those unexpected muscles. Anyway, I did not have any RPS intentions here, not my thing.
What I was wondering, has anyone written any fics about how Lister may have had a similar reaction? It is particularly interesting in combination with his insistence on blazing away to save Rimmer, and this is before he discovered the importance of Rimmers state of mind for their own survival. It is also interesting to ponder whether Lister knew of Rimmers reasons for leaving the holoship.

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[kahvi.livejournal.com]

*mumbles* "Iwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhimIwould'veshaggedhim">


*wakes up from daze* Whu? No! No, I'm firmly against RPS. I find it wrong. Very wrong. Wrong, wrong wrong... Ngh!

(The thing is, I do! But christ allmighty... They need to stop slashing themselves!!!)

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

I know! I practically jumped when I heard that. Had to replay a few times before I believed it was not my mind playing games with me. I think I need to go through the episode with the cast commentary to hear what they are saying there too.
These guys are really the greatest, and the documentary for each season goes from informative to hilarious all the time. I often suspect that the people editing them are choosing the stuff they say which somehow is close to the character they play, even for a comedy like this I guess an actor put a lot of himself into a character he plays for such a long time.
I just couldn't help thinking that if this is Craigs reaction, who one would assume gets laid on a regular basis, what would Listers be, 2 mill years into space without getting laid?

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

You've seen these, right?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dc26kYbCx0g
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XqQtroSILxM

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Argh! Every time these get linked, I lose a chunk of time to... watching... Chris... Craig... naked... underwear...

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

You too, huh?

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

*melty and squee-y*

[fire-charmer.livejournal.com]

I know this is a late post, but YouTube has removed these videos due to some violation. Can you believe that??? Damn them all...... (cries in the corner)

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

No, I haven't. On the season 8 DVD set? I really hated season 8, I stopped watching after a few episodes. The whole thing went downhill with the Kochanski replacement and no Rimmer, but back on the Dwarf really killed the whole series for me. But possibly I will buy the DVDs and suffer through just to have seen it all, now that I know it ends there. And possibly for some fun extras...

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Seriously; you NEED the DVDs. I don't have them myself, but I'm getting them for the extras. Hell, even the commentaries would be worth it!

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

I suspected that. For the sake of completeness. One season at a time. And then fast back to watch favourite episodes to forget...

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Well, I've heard from both Chole and Craig that Grant and Naylor mercilessly steal from the actors' personalities and quirks to make their characters. So again - Mmmmrphle!!!! The moment I heard that "I'd have shagged him," I just lost it.

Tangentially, Chris is utterly adorable here. I think the man only gets lovelier as he gets older.

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

That makes sense. They sort of becomes more and more whole persons over the seasons. I really liked season 5 for the character developments.
Of course I am a strange person who actually liked Rimmer a lot more than Ace Rimmer - I didnt think Rimmer could get more irritating until he showed up.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

You are in good company with lady_draco and I in that! Can't stand the bugger. It's turned up in a few fics.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Well, that is, the Aces we see before Arn becomes Ace. I really liked when Lister told Rimmer that he could be a different kind of Ace, and I try to reflect that in my fics. If being held back a year made Ace - well, I think being a soft-light hologram and being stuck with the Boys from the Dwarf made Arn into a better Ace than Ace, eventually.

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

Yes, I agree to that. It was fun that even Lister thought the other Ace was "a bit full of himself". Being kept back a year made him Ace, Arnie had been kept back a life time. It would probably give him a bit more humility, and he would also quickly see that being the hero was not necessary the greatest thing. He might even find out that being a part of a team wasn't so bad after all.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Yes, indeedy! I agree - that's what I think Arn brings to the part.

[kirke-novak.livejournal.com]

O_o Sluts! How dare they tease us like that! They deserve some spanking! Ok, first Craig gonna spank Chris and then Chris Craig. XD

RPS!power!!! :D

I know I've read a fic about it some times ago but for the love of RD, no idea when and by whom ^^;

o_O

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

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Mental... Images...

[beetle-breath.livejournal.com]

I love the commentary! In Future Echoes where the boyz are pondering where they would get two babies, someone (I think it's Craig) points out that they're all looking at Rimmer. More importantly, his crotch. XD

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Yup, and Craig says (unless I'm very much mistaking); "this is like the prelude to our Series VII kiss"!!?

[beetle-breath.livejournal.com]

Yeah, somethng like that. It's great!

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

*goes back to watch I with the commentary*

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Oh, by some strange coincidence, that's where I was looking, too. :)

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

So I am set then. When finished with the DVDs, I can start all over watching with commentaries (have only watched documentaries so far). No problems with left over spare time for a while ;-)

[8abbott-of-odd0.livejournal.com]

You've got to love a show where even the actors point out the slashy subtext XD

[beetle-breath.livejournal.com]

Oh trust me, I do. XD

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

This is my second favorite documentary clip ever.

My first being the Blue bit, of course, where Chris is going on about how Craig would taste and it being a good kiss, and Robert talking about how goopy they were afterwards...

I loved how the director mentioned that Chris was too eager to get his shirt off. This is a good thing, ma'am!

I haven't written anything specifically about what you ask, but I have mercilessly used bits of imagery of this documentary. I have also written a fic where Lister did know why Rimmer left the Enlightenment, but it was set between Vi and VII.

I know RPS is wrong. But shitehell, it's so, so, so, hard not to go there with these two!

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

I haven't written anything specifically about what you ask, but I have mercilessly used bits of imagery of this documentary. I have also written a fic where Lister did know why Rimmer left the Enlightenment, but it was set between Vi and VII.
Was that posted not so long ago? With a remark of how you wondered at the change of attitude between VI and VII? I liked that. The change of attitude could have been further motivated by a need to like someone with a body like that ::EG::

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Yep, indeedy!

And *faint* Yep, indeedy!