Does Lister Really Have A "Type"?

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

I read a brief discussion on the official site in which a poster opined that the common opinion that Kochanski 2.0 simply isn't Lister's type may not be true. They pointed out that Lise Yates is "reasonably well spoken" and that he seems quite happy in "Timeslides" with the extremely upper-class Lady Sabrina Mulholland-Jjones.

I've always thought that original Kochanski seemed better suited to him, but as many have noted, we really don't get to know her very well at all. Maybe Chloe's version isn't as ill-suited as we often imagine.

Here comes the slash angle - Saylee recently pointed out that if we discount Lister's ability to fall for someone who's fussy and uptight, we sink our own ship. ;)

Thinking about Doug's thought processes when he decided to bring in Kochanski for Series 7, I realise part of it was to bring in a woman in order to improve the chances of financing for the longed-for film. Implicit in that was to introduce a potential love interest for Lister. I find it fascinating that he ended up with a character who has similarities with early Rimmer. She may be a lot more competent, but she doesn't fit in with the group either - for example, the scene in "Blue" where she tries to interest the others in an opera game is reminiscent in some ways of Rimmer trying to get the party going in "Dimension Jump" and droning on about Risk in "Meltdown".

The salad cream saga also seems the kind of thing Rimmer would get het up about. I find these parallels amusing. :)

Comments

[saylee.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think the problem with Kochanski 2.0 as Lister's love interest isn't so much that she's not his type (something that probably wouldn't carry a lot of weight with him if he had feelings for someone, anyway, even if it was clear he had a type), but that, as dragonsquill says, there's no real romantic chemistry there. Also, maybe the fact that we know that she's there as a potential love interest for Lister makes it feel forced.

The parallels between Rimmer and Kochanski are great.

[dragonsquill.livejournal.com]

....There is also the fact that in the very episode in which they introduced her, they also revealed that she's his mother.

Which is.

Strange.

Even on a show where he had two babies with his own lady-self.

But that just didn't start me off with a "Let's get Listy and his genetic mother together! ROMANCE!" sort of vibe.

(But honestly, Craig had more chemistry with the Polymorph-as-Rimmer's-Mum.)

[saylee.livejournal.com]

I just can't get over that. If they wanted to make her Lister's love interest, then they should have dropped the mother thing altogether.

It's occurring to me now how interesting it would have been to have dropped the love-interest bit and have her trying to act as Lister's mother and him not having it at all. It might also mitigate Kryten's jealous-girlfriend vibe. At least it would make more sense for him to be competitive with someone who might take over caring for Lister.

(Forget Rimmer's Mum, he had more chemistry with the dung beetle-esque psiren.)

[dragonsquill.livejournal.com]

Hmmmm I like that take on Kochanski. That could have worked into some funny bits. Kryten made more sense to me when he'd been reprogrammed in Krytie TV and claimed he'd forgiven Kochanski because now he wants BABIES to take care of than when he was hating on Kochanski for being a possible love interest. I can see his jealousy coming more from someone wanting to clean up after, feed, take care of Lister like a mother would. Hopefully he never sees the vids from Lister's dad, or he might have a meltdown.

Though his treatment of Kochanski was so similiar to how he hated Rimmer that my slash goggles give it the thumbs up.

(Craig Charles truly threw himself into kissing that giant dung beetle. It is a thing of beauty.)

[janamelie.livejournal.com]

Yes, you'd think Kryten would be pleased at the prospect of Lister and Kochanski getting together for the possibility of kids if nothing else. *Puzzled*