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[beetle-breath.livejournal.com]

Hey, smegheads!

I've got a question regarding Lister's relationship with Kochanski. In the older seasons, Lister & Rimmer often go back and forth about her and it seems like Kochanski had no interest in Lister whatsoever.

But in the episode where the 'nu-Kochanski' is introduced, it's said that they were going out. Which is it? Is there any definitive answer, or were the writers just being forgetful/careless?

Another thing that I can't verify right now, but have a question on anyway. If my memory serves me correctly, in the episode Duct Soup, Kochanski says that her Dave was gay. Is this true, or am I just imaging things?

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[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

I think Lister confronts what he did - he's too emotional for me to believe he just pitches it aside! I like thinking about his dreams after SMAC - I can't believe he had just one dream where he snogged Rimmer, and that was all. ;)

I think he's kinder to ressurected!Rimmer soley for that reason - somehow, trying to make up for what he did to holoRimmer.

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

Well, I think the eternally optimistic Lister probably tried not to think too hard of it, and if he did tried see it as a good thing, and Kryten really did his best to help him rationalise it. But he can not fool his subconscious ::G::
Of course he kept dreaming. And he was nice to the resurrected Rimmer because he missed HoloRimmer, whether he realised it or not, and couldn't help being nice. Also of course knowing so much more about Rimmer than what he did back when.
But I don't think he ever actually was confronted with what he did, because he had nobody to discuss it with, and Lister was never a person to dwell on uncomfortable things that he couldn't change.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Yep, it was all so much better for resurrected!Rimmer - who didn't go through everything holoRimmer did to deserve that kindness! Gah. :p

Lister doesn't like dwelling on things he can't change, but it was said a few times that he likes to think of himself as a good and moral person, and I can't believe it wouldn't nag at him - especially after meeting resurrected!Rimmer. Maybe the niceness is partially a conscious decision - to try to do something right to make up for what he did before. Even the non-slashers I talk to think there was something very wrong with Lister kicking Rimmer out like that. :p

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

He would certainly not be the first to consider himself good and moral and having to confront the fact that he did something really terrible. But unfortunately the usual way to deal with such things are denial. Subconsciously he feels bad and wants Rimmer back, but I don't think he ever will get around to really facing things unless he met HoloRimmer again - or did something similar he could not get away with.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

...or met the next Rimmer, once holo!Rimmer is dead. I've thought about that for a fic, too - the successor to Rimmer finding holo!Lister, and bringing him to rescue Kochanski. Can we say smeg on a stick?

[nessaancalime.livejournal.com]

Oh, no I am with eviltigerlily here - too, too depressing. I want our Rimmer and Lister, not some alternative versions ::wails::
But as I said, it is easy enough to make HoloRimmer survive and meet Lister again, only I cannot write it :-(

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Ah, you know I dig tEh anGsT!

Yep, it's certainly doable. But I think the depressing one is calling me.