Fic: Back - part 3 of 6 - NC-17

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Title: Back - part 3 of 6
Authors: roadstergal and kahvi
Pairings: Rimmer/Lister
Rating: NC-17, for adult themes.
Disclaimer: We do not own them, and we make no money from this.
Note: This won't make much sense if you haven't read part 1 or part 2.

"I'm not one of those better-dead-than-humiliated, Sebbie. Humiliate me any day."


The song Billy hums.

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[eviltigerlily.livejournal.com]

*sniffle* You made me cry... I'm very cross with you both right now...

He looked at his hands and wondered if he would really miss having a brain

*snort* in a very creepy sort of way.

Sebastian had woken up some hours before Lister that morning

Eep, mommy. That whole split personality thing is muchos creepy. It's really good in a storytelling sort of way but make it stop now. Please?

It was almost a relief, to fall back into the role of a pathetic loser. It felt so natural, so right?

And why is that, I wonder?! Huh, Arn?!

"The last human alive and his dead hologrammatic space-hero companion? He-llo?"

Erm... Make perfect sense to me. Er... Yes.
The whole scene in the cell (damn that's the entire thing isn't it?) was beautiful and heartbreaking. The deep emotion involved is so tangible. Especially when the Lister-Sebastian thing comes into play. And the ending was just... Not the end, damnit! Now for the making it all better, and putting my world right side up again.

And brownie points for using the word kerfuffle.

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

This part made me sad too - I know how you feel. :(

The brain thing is one of my favorite lines from this; roadstergal's work. *nods*

Lister wants it to stop too, and so does Sebastian... unfortunately they can't seem to agree on which one gets to remain in the only head they've got...

Kerfuffle! :D Made me smile when I saw it.

Ah yes, 'tis dark... but some worlds and some places are dark. I'm glad you're still reading, and I hope you're enjoying it despite it all. And thank you for the feeback! Feeback is tasty. *eats it*

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

kahvi did the split with Lister and Sebastian so creepily well, IMO.

Heh, you know, the first time I encountered the word "kerfuffle" was in Rob Grant's Colony. I try not to overuse it, but I love the word.

Thanks much for feedback!

[noirenails.livejournal.com]

"It's all I have to offer," Lister said, looking dead ahead. ... That he could offer. Bastard that he was.
That whole long paragraph is a thing of beauty <3

*almost bawls in unison with Lister and Billy D:*

because masturbation was unStately
Now, that is one of the things that baffle me the most in Doyleverse. How does a little personal pleasure make you less than good? And does the, er, State have peeping toms or such to keep on top of the things? ...though the sad thing is, I think, that some people still really think like this :P

Oh god, I love that fellatio scene! Really! Verily!

Billy kissed Sebastian, his mouth open. Sebastian kissed back, frantically, and Billy let him; he tried to focus on the softness of Sebastian's lips, the clean, toothpaste-like taste of the mouth as he licked it. Good feelings, those. They'd make good memories. He stroked Sebastian's cheek. That was pretty good, too.
*heart breaks for the umpteenth time*

<3

[eviltigerlily.livejournal.com]

How does a little personal pleasure make you less than good? And does the, er, State have peeping toms or such to keep on top of the things?

I assume the State is in possesion of a thought police. And lots and lots of spies, of course - people have friends, roommates, neighbors, servants and they all want those raffle prizes!
As for a little pleasure, denying it is the whole point. Denying people the realization of their most basic desires allowes you to control them. That's why religions do it. *nods sagely*

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

*blush* Thank you - it's one of mine. :)

Good heavens - aren't you aware of the deteriorating effects of sex? Why, masturbation leaves your body as badly managed as a corporation run by women! Perhaps you should talk to the People's Thought Police during one of their ice-cream socials? They are always happy to inform the public about health-care.

Mmm... fellatio... *cough* :p

Aw, thanks! Glad you continue to enjoy it. :D

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

kahvi has this thing for making things of beauty like that... *sigh*

It's the hairy palms and blindness kick made official! Sex is dirty, after all! Bleh. :p

Thankee for feedback!

[laurenthemself]

You know, incest is supposed to be one of my squicks.

You broke one of my squicks, at least temporarily.

Now I'm just being squicked by the Doyleverse in general.

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Wanna know something? I squick for incest too. But somehow, when roadstergal is writing with me, it works. She has this way of making everything accessible and fascinating, even if you inherently dislike it.

I hear ya about the Doyleverse. Nasty place.

Thanks for the wonderful feedback! :)

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

*blush* Thanks!

You know, it's funny - most of the only children I know are much more squicked by incest than those with siblings I know. I would never sleep with any of my sibs, but I'm fine with incest as long as it's goodfic. I wonder if that's a general tenent...

[laurenthemself]

I don't know. All I know is that I squick for incest because my ex abused his little sister.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Meep. Yeah, that'd change things.

I was abused by an extended family member when I was little, and did the counseling thing and all later in life, but it still doesn't squick me in general. Maybe that is sick and wrong. *spreads hands helplessly*

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Then again, I was only thinking of consenting adult incest when I wrote the above. Kiddie sex, incest or not, does squick me. I guess that'd be my distinction.

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Consent is the key word here, I wholeheartedly agree. Incest is a loaded word; in Norwegian the word has come to mean sexual abuse of children by family members almost exclusively. I'm sure the same is true of other languages and cultures too.

[laurenthemself]

Maybe it's a way of coping for you.

I think, though, that at least on a fandom level, m/m or f/f incest is more acceptable than m/f, and I think it's because you don't get deformed babies out of slash or femmeslash (although I also think that it's probably been written somewhere).

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Maybe it's a way of coping for you.

I don't seek it out or make it a point to write it, though - I just don't have a problem with reading it as long as it's goodfic. And I realy don't have any lingering issues with the event itself.

m/m or f/f incest is more acceptable than m/f, and I think it's because you don't get deformed babies out of slash or femmeslash

I quite agree, although consenting adult m/f incest-ers could also certainly make the rational choice to not procreate.

[typhonblue.livejournal.com]

Aw... *snif* *bawls*

So sad, so sweet. I really like how you wrote sebastian!Lister. And william!Rimmer has so much pathos.

I have some concrit for the story if you'd like it.

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Thanks, I'm glad you like it. :)

As for concrit; we're always looking for it. If it's something technical or gramatical, you could e-mail it to us (I'm kat (at) saers (dot) com). But if it's something you think could merit discussion, you might as well post it here. I've had some good discussions come from that.

[typhonblue.livejournal.com]

I think I'm going to wait until you post the entire story. :)

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Thanks! And yes, as Kat says - post it here or mail it along.

[lady-draco.livejournal.com]

*stares at you both*

Boo to you!!!

That was lovely. And sad. And all emotionally emotional. Hmm. I haven't seen any sign of Duane yet so I am happy ;)

Keep going ... and going ... and going. Forever and ever I say.

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Evil is fun. :P

Eh... Yes. Well. He's... happy now. *cough*

We will! Or at least for a few installments more. ;)

Thank youuuuu! :D

[lady-draco.livejournal.com]

When did I say that? *confused* What the hell ...

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