[identity profile] janamelie.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] reddwarfslash
But for whatever reason don't feel capable of writing yourself?   I'm sure we all have some, but the one I'm personally thinking of right now is one where Lister and Rimmer are in an established relationship but something isn't quite right.  It turns out that Rimmer wants Lister to dom him.  Although initially scared at the thought, Lister tries because he wants to make his lover happy.

It just seems to me that the guilt he would experience at taking pleasure in dominating someone - even if it was only pleasure at doing what Rimmer wanted - would be fascinating to explore.  Also the fact that Rimmer is a hard-light hologram and therefore much tougher than a human being - would that reassure Lister or scare the smeg out of him?

I'm not imagining anything particularly hardcore; it could be scenarios like orgasm denial.  What I imagine Lister would find disturbing is the whole concept of having that much power over someone.

This fic is excellent, of course, but the dynamic is already established here.  <a>http://archiveofourown.org/works/1458460</a>

So what fics would others like to see written?

Date: 2015-10-05 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordvalerymimes.livejournal.com
All the ones that are in my head. Seriously, get OUT of there fics!

I'd love to see more established relationship fics. It's fun to imagine the scenarios that might lead to them getting together, and I feel like we have a lot of those fics because of how interesting that is to explore, so I'd like to see more of the aftermath. After these crazy space-husbands get over the angst and just admit to how much they love one another, I want to know what happens next. Listy and Rimsy, living together in domestic bliss with their Cat and their android maid. *heart-eyes*

In less wholesome thoughts, I mentioned before to you [livejournal.com profile] janamelie how I'd been thinking about a fic where Rimmer is hard light and Ace comes back and somehow the two of them wind up getting a bit tipsy and both fawning over Lister and trying to impress him and this leads to some sort of kinky threesome with the two of them trying to one-up the other. But after working on my remix of Three's Company, I think I may be developing a bit of gun-shyness when it comes to threesome fics. They are HARD to write! So someone else go and write it. ;-)

Date: 2015-10-06 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordvalerymimes.livejournal.com
Side note: every time I read the name of your fic, I get the theme song from Three's Company (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX0cSaaLcXo) playing in my head, and I kind of love it.

Date: 2015-10-08 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordvalerymimes.livejournal.com
It was actually a fairly funny show if my memory can be trusted. Although it probably wouldn't hold up so well these days. Shows from the 70s often have that problem. :-)

Date: 2015-10-09 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com

It was risque back then, but now it's almost quaint. Try watching it again, see what you think.

Date: 2015-10-09 11:32 pm (UTC)
laurenthemself: Rainbow rose with words 'love as thou wilt' below in white lettering (RD: Derpy twoo wuv.)
From: [personal profile] laurenthemself
I've been writing an Ace/Rimmer/Lister fic but it's been stalled since I started it last year. Never say die, though; it's still on my WIP list rather than on my 'retired fic' list.
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Date: 2015-10-09 11:45 pm (UTC)
laurenthemself: Rainbow rose with words 'love as thou wilt' below in white lettering (Kushiel's Legacy: Rainbow Love.)
From: [personal profile] laurenthemself
It starts out as a sort of training exercise; one of the things Rimmer needs to learn to become Ace is flirting and... consequent actions.

Date: 2015-10-05 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I would like to see some new/unexpected/uncommon pairings. Perhaps some asexual love between Kryten and Lister? With him being jealous of Kochanski? (Like in series 7). Maybe something with human Kryten like in D.N.A? Definitely something with Cat, whether it's with himself or Lister or something. I would like to see something new, definitely!

Date: 2015-10-05 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosecathy1.livejournal.com
Since you mentioned human!Kryten, I feel obligated to link this: https://archiveofourown.org/works/32167

There must be other Kryten fics somewhere in the archives and/or the old kink meme, or am I remembering wrong?

Date: 2015-10-05 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosecathy1.livejournal.com
I have something like what you described in a dark back area of my brain, except without Lister being too torn up about it. It would depend on what kinds of things they did, I suppose.

I've thought at different times that I'd like to see old married Deb/Arlene. I very briefly dabbled in that, but it wasn't much at all.

Date: 2015-10-06 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordvalerymimes.livejournal.com
Maybe when people imagine Lister in a darker way, they're taking some inspiration from the parallel universe Lister from Last Human? If my recollection is correct, that version of Lister was adopted by a different family, and it led to him essentially becoming a sociopath. It's hard to think of our soppy, sentimental, romantic Listy having violent or darker tendencies in him, but as we saw in Demons and Angels, the potential is there.

We all have darker sides to our nature that we either control, or suppress, or that we aren't even very aware of since they weren't nurtured in us as we grew up. I had a thought one day about what my own Low might be like, and it wasn't a pleasant thing to think of.

I really wish they'd included Lister's pregnancy and the birth of Jim and Bexley on the show. I think because we never actually SAW it happen, I have a hard time being invested in the boys and what happened to them. Also probably because Lister never, ever mentions them, except for the off-handed, "I've given birth to twins," line in Demons and Angels. As someone who's given birth, it's not something you easily forget, and having to give up your kids afterward and never see them again? Yeah, that would fuck Lister up, that would fuck him up a LOT. It irritates me that it's just sort of made into a non-event.

I don't know if it's because he's a man that they try to make him giving birth to two babies, and then having to give them up, something that doesn't effect him at all. More probably it's just because they decided the story-line really wouldn't work for the format of the show, and they just wanted to sweep it under the carpet and ignore it. Still, it irritates me. You don't just give birth to twins, have them grow into teenagers overnight, and have to give them up and never see them again without having some sadness about it.

They probably just should never have written the, "Lister gets himself knocked up" story in the first place. ;-)

Date: 2015-10-07 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathie-d.livejournal.com
I thought they said they couldn't think of anyway of making it not sexist? But then, just sweeping the babies into another universe and pretending they didn't exist was sort sexist. In that the kids were the mother's problem, even when the mother was the father!

I'd love to read a fic about Deb and Arlene dealing with having the kids. Anyone know if there are any? I had an idea in which the kids got sent back to the other universe, and then they get de-aged somehow, so we could have all the missing baby scenes, only with Deb and Arlene. I couldn't write it myself though, as I literally know NOTHING about babies.

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