Fic: Worlds. PG. R/L, implications of R/L, implications of R/L.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

A post-Stoke Me A Clipper fic. Spoilers up through there.
Concrit always appreciated, especially in this one for voice and pacing. I find it so much easier to write Rimmer as smug bastard/git, and I'm never quite sure how to evolve his voice as Ace.

My name is Arnold, you batty machine.

Comments

[eviltigerlily.livejournal.com]

That was just......Beautiful. So sad too. Poor Arn.
I think you got the Ace voice right, you can hear the difference 20 years of being Ace have made, but it's still Rimmer. Very well done indeed =)

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the feedback! Yes, poor Arn... well, a little rambling about SMAC below (or I'll just say the same thing every time). ;)

[shivvlan.livejournal.com]

Gosh, that was a good one! You mixed the Ace voice with the Arnold thought quite well--a seemless merging.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Aww, thanks!

[8abbott-of-odd0.livejournal.com]

*Sniff*

The part involving the Bonjella princesses was hilariously funny XD War World must be an interesting place to live.

I love the line about the unrequited love of an electronic lifeform, and the part about getting through Ace's catchphrase without giggling :D

The ending was incredibly moving but at the same time rather frightning, I think it was the thought that all those Rimmers had to leave absolutely everything behind, icluding all those Listers :(

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

I thought the whole idea of War World and the Bonjella tribe was just a great one on Naylor's part (dunno if Grant was involved in that one), and one that could be milked mercilessly.

I have strong feelings about SMAC as an episode. Yes, I know it was just because Chris was leaving, but the way it fit into the show just seemed to me to be horribly, horribly sad. Between VI and VII, Rimmer and Lister really seemed to hit an affection and understanding well beyond what they had hit before, and it seemed that Rimmer left to be Ace - and to be alone! - just as he and Lister were finally getting somewhere lovely.

And tangentially, I think it's interesting that the video diary in Blue was made by Kryten in his jealousbitch phase. I don't think he would be any happier about the idea of Lister kissing Rimmer than the idea of Lister kissing Kochanski. I've had a bunny for a while from Kryten's POV, where he's desperately trying to find something to turn Lister off, and he culls the nasty bits from Rimmer's diary - pointedly not putting in some other bits...

[8abbott-of-odd0.livejournal.com]

I'll be looking out for any more milking :P

I feel that the characters in Red Dwarf are never really allowed to be happy, but it's a real shame Rimmer and Lister didn't have the chance to take a shot. I'm actually really curious to know where their relationship could have gone if Ace hadn't got a shot through the light-bee on War World.

Oooo, are you going to make that into a fic? The "other bits" part interests me.

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

A groove was worn in the top
*sad smile*

The way out of his life, into one where the pieces would fall into place and form a more pleasing picture.
Lovely sentence.

"It's not Beryl. It's her sister, Carbuncle."
*snigger*

Wonderful (well, horrible, but you see what I mean) imagery of the explosion, and Rimmer's second death.

Who was he to mock the unrequited affection of an electronic lifeform?
Good one.

The spear, however, hit something that sent an unusual electrical crackle through his body.
Aaah! Fuck, no! *gets rather too involved with this*

"Oh, far be it from me to get in the way of two consenting adults in the mood for a little salami-dip."
You go, Arn.

...


*glares at you* *goes away and curls up into a ball, thinking furiously*

Erm... That means it was good. But yes.

Well, you can't expect me not to try...

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

AHAH!

*whoops, does little dance of joy*

YES! Gotcha! There's the angle! *grins widely and keeps writing*

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Of course you have to try! *more popcorn* :D

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Yes, that was not happy... :( But you know how I feel about SMAC!

I remember reading The Adventure Of The Blue Carbuncle way back when, and thinking "What the hell?" I had to look it up to realize it was a gemstone once...

Yes, the second death. Again, something in the show that struck me as horribly sad, and was not gone into by the writers.

That ship's computer also struck me as a little horrifying. She coos over every Ace, but she appears to coo over every Ace identically, paying no mind to the fact that they're dying and being replaced.

Oh, we know every Arn wants every Lister in every dimension - and it must have just killed this one (so to speak) to see the Lister in his dimension pining after Ace. :p

[kahvi.livejournal.com]

Of course - the blue hair! Hah; didn't catch that one. Nice. ;)

I felt quite sorry for this Lister too, I'm not sure why. Well, there's the fact that Ace basically took advantage of him. :/

Guh - I'm trying to make my response-story (so to speak) balance between too depressing and too sappy. It did start out as "Too Much" and ended up as "Home", so I think it's going in the right direction. Might post soon, because I need to get it out of my system!

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Oh, I agree - I wanted Arn to say that outright, because I think it is indeed wrong to just take advantage of that Ace position, and then to run off and not tell him the whole Ace story. It was unfair to that dimension's Lister, and it was unfair to that dimension's Rimmer, as well.

*eagerly awaits*

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

I just noticed that the version of that userpic I uploaded was too big. Here's a 22K version:

[beetle-breath.livejournal.com]

Ouch. I seem to say that a lot to your fics. Either way, it was very good. Rimmer analysis is always sad, with or without death.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I kinda hit the depressing angle, usually - and then Kahvi makes it better. ;) Thanks!

[lady-draco.livejournal.com]

Okay - that was sad. Like sad sad sad made me cry sad still sniffling sad. Beautifully sad ... Aww, Arn *huggles him*.

Beautiful job mate.

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

Yes, poor Arn! But honestly, that is really how I feel about how Dave and Arn ended up, in canon! Because of what they (writers) did with SMAC.

But I mentioned that I was thinking about Brothers In Arms when I wrote it -

Now the sun's gone to hell
And the moon's riding high
Let me bid you farewell
Every man has to die
But it's written in the starlight
And every line on your palm
We're fools to make war
On our brothers in arms

[roadstergal.livejournal.com]

But on the other hand, it is because Arn is different from Ace that I feel he can, as Lister said, be a different kind of Ace, and set the stage for a better end for the next Rimmer. I think that is how Arn is a hero, really, more so than the other Aces. He has the potential to break the chain in a good way, and I like to think that he does.